1. vinyl, I don't have vinyl so can't really tell. Buy both. Quote: Originally Posted by memepool Isn't it odd then that their full sized machines like the Sony BDP-S1 support a Matsu****a format like DVD but won't play legacy Sony format's like SACD or even redbook. #4. I'm generally rather selective about my SACD purchases and onl. Given that they use the same mastering the answer is NO. onlyconnect, Sep 19, 2020. There isn't an answer as to what sounds better it really is just personal preference. The real difference. Los Angeles, CA. All great stuff and this combined with the revitalized vinyl market bodes well for my enjoyment of music at home and is a much brighter picture than I saw when the future of audio seemed only CD and compressed. Both sound great but I only want to keep one. " CD or SACD vs Vinyl. One example is excess Volume Compression in modern music. The higher the bitrate, the better the sound quality. Check the numbers; audiophiles have voted decisively with their wallets for vinyl. Steely Dan's gold-selling fifth studio album The Royal Scam, was produced by Gary Katz and was originally released by ABC Records in 1976. Kann man diese beiden Formate vergleichen?Analog und Digital? Geht das?Zum abspielen eines SACD Formats benötigt man einen passenden SACD Player. • UHQR Vinyl Record. Virtual. SACD VS Vinyl for Jazz and Classical Well, I've been thinking of getting into vinyl for a while now but still haven't done it. deeper, wider sound field. General observations: * The Who - SHM-SACD is quite clean - I can easily move in and out of each track within each song so there is vg clarity. More sharing options. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Ironically, the royalty for an SACD was the same as for a CD: $. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. You can’t go wrong there. Add to Cart. The differences between them, resolution wise, are huge since XRCD is a pure red book format at 16/44. I have to say that 3 songs into the SACD I shut it off and went back to the vinyl. Even vinyl has enough dynamic range to cover that. I do have an unwrapped Cramberries (best of) SHM CD with me. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. DVD-Audio/SACD vs Vinyl sound quality? Discussion in ' Music Corner ' started by Vinophile, May 22, 2006 . Headquartered in Salina, Kansas, Acoustic Sounds, Inc. However, I think it's still too early to answer this question even with identically mastered sources recorded and played back on state-of-the-art equipment optimized for. There are records for every genre of music I listen to, whereas almost nothing I listen to is ever released on SACD. #30. If you like SACDs, the 2004 reissue of Relaxin’ by the Miles Davis Quintet sounds equally fantastic, albeit a little different with a. This is the SACD that was recommended by Steve and it is the best I've heard so far. garfish. November 4th for CBAT. Boy, what a difference. I have most of the recordings you mention and they're all great. 1 kHz sampling rate, SACD samples at 2. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. Sony SACD. cporcp, Jun 28, 2021 #7. I don't know which is more truthful. I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. Might as well jump: Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab has announced that Van Halen's first six multi-platinum albums originally released on the Warner Bros. bmpnyc. Dylan 'Desire' MFSL SACD and vinyl* Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jack White, Aug 2, 2013. This is especially appealing for home theater enthusiasts. The vinyl appears to be analogue mastered so if you value an all-analogue chain that would be an advantage. Details;SACD VS Vinyl for Jazz and Classical Well, I've been thinking of getting into vinyl for a while now but still haven't done it. Compared to the vinyl, more rounded, less real. A Secret Lab. I keep reading that the vinyl setup is much better, but that is not my experience. 99. Forums. Both formats have their own unique advantages and disadvantages, so it can be tough to decide which one is right for you. Like the DVD, SACD was a dual-layer format, but instead of one or two high-density layers, the SACD could have a high-density layer and a CD-compatible layer, so the. The SACD follows quite closely behind vinyl, however it sounds more sterile even though you can hear as much detail as you can with the vinyl. Or that only some PS3s do SACD?neverbe said: ↑. This is pure DSD sound to applaud! Axis: Bold As Love, the sensational sophomore release of the Jimi Hendrix Experience, showcased Hendrix's expansive experimentation while acknowledging his early R&B and soul music influences. . Mirror Image Forum Resident. Deeper fuller sound across the board. So far my favorites from each format are as follows: SACD: Eric Clapton - Journeyman DVD-A: Fleetwood Mac - Rumors DVD (Dolby Digital/DTS): Eagles. 98: Grateful Dead / Workingman's Dead Hybrid Stereo SACD Numbered Limited Edition CMOB 2137 SA Original Price: $29. There are also the hybrid SACD discs from AP but I am not as familiar with those. Vinyl. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. My reluctance in getting a transport has many reasons, the main being my investment in vinyl, but I did need to find a link to my CDs. Tiny imperfections in the belts or wheels of the turntable will cause more. Would someone out there who has the vinyl and has compared it to either the MFSL CD or the newer SACD please. The MoFi also has surface noise,while the Abkco vinyl is near silent. My guess is that if they wanted to tweak the SACD to match the sound of the final vinyl pressing, they probably could…. . 1k Posted October 24, 2003 The XRCD probably had a goosed up high end and somebody was fooled into preferring it. #3. . SACD vs. Thread starter mosttoysrk; Start date Sep 25, 2007; Help Support MartinLogan Audio Owners Forum:. First, All music is on Vinyl. Next. I like both; but am buying more hi-q vinyl than SACD, DVD-A, or HDCD simply because remastered 180g vinyl is easier to find in the genres I listen to: Rock, alt-rock, blues, some jazz, and oldies. I think SACD has the best audio fidelity of any medium I have ever heard to date. However, I have tested the EQ of my cartridge and phono stage and in all the following examples, that EQ has been reversed out of the vinyl samples so that what we're comparing is the true EQ of what's in the LP groove. The 777ES does not perform at its best upon power-on. 4) Making Movies - muted, no drum slam, muted highs. Should I buy the Deluxe edition for my Blu ray player that plays SACD or buy the Vinyl for an actual Vinyl player I would have to buy. for making the SACD version, and instead they CHOSE James Guthrie, who was an engineer producing, e. I cant tell the difference with the CD's as they dont have as much range and clarity as the other 2. It also provides a higher bit rate and longer. I no longer have the capability of playing vinyl. Sounded most balanced, less bright, more "analog". It is a high-resolution digital. New media New comments Browse Albums Search media. I don't know which is more truthful. SACD (white) vs Bluray (blue) The pressing quality of 2022 vinyl is not always perfect, but often a wash will solve the problem. #5. . In. Fourth - 45 rpm vinyl . High Resolution: SACD offers a significantly higher sample rate and bit depth, resulting in more accurate and. The discs are digitally identical and will sound exactly the same no matter what some snake oil lovers will tell you. Head Gear. Or sign in with one of these services. . Show Printable Version; 12-12-2012, 03:54 AM #31. I listened to them a few times each over a period of a year. Audiogon The world's largest high-end audio community. This is the reason why Pink Floyd did NOT consider Alan Parsons. The difference between DSD and the source vinyl was very, very slight and I am not sure I could tell the difference on any given day. One is the MFSL version which I loved. The initial presentation changed from relatively mechanical to one with atmosphere and naturalness. They all sound great but I really can't say that the SHM-SACD sounds better than the other two. (Figures IIRC, can't find citation at the moment. This release was originally announced in late 2019 and fans have been waiting patiently ever since. True. Often times, the. Vinyl. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. One of the fun things about this hobby is screwing around. The ABCX-758A/B as mentioned above is my favorite. Maybe but so far my experience with mofi's SACD vs vinyl has not been good for SACS. KeithH Success With Honor. Look how far CD sound has come in the last 20. Animals is a concept album, focusing on the social-political conditions of mid-1970s Britain, and was a change from the style of the band's earlier work. As noted in my previous post [link], the Forum didn’t want to pay the $. While vinyl records, in theory, directly encode a smooth audio wave, CDs sample that audio wave at various points and then collate those samples. Vinyl does not always trounce digital. It ain't dead to me at all, thanks in no small part to our host. Then the sleeves and inner sleeves. Search first posts only. Hard to say which sounds better, but they both sound very hard to top. Between vinyl and SACD, I buy SACD. SACD vs. Boy, what a difference. is the world leader in audiophile music. 6%. Fred Dender and Grampire like this. Vinyl. A vinyl record vs a SACD is very very close. The overall mastering job is superior on the Abkco releases and the detail is greater on both the SACD and vinyl reissuses. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Location: Finland. By Kimo January 22, 2012 in General Forum. Hi-res digital audio vs sacd I've got a pretty good setup for vinyl and digital audio files, but I have an opportunity to get a "minty" 10-yr old audiophile-grade CD/SACD player for $350. I do have two different versions of "Question of Balance". Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Maybe no better overall than any other version. Szeppelin75, Nov 7, 2016. 1. SACD vs. More 'holographic', deeper staging. MusicDirect offers 140 titles on SACD and another 20 or so. Boy, what a difference. I received Hank Mobley, Mobley's Message and also Jackie. I listen mainly to vinyl via a Marantz TT15 Benz Wood SH MC combo. Perfect music with one of Mozart’s greatest interpreters with the greatest orchestra. Would someone out there who has the vinyl and has compared it to either the MFSL CD or the newer SACD please. I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. Video and Audio Formats on Plastic – Part 3 is an introduction to audio formats on CD, SACD, DVD, DVDA and Blu-Ray. It’s a Japanese copy of Dire Straits first lp. SACD Specifications. I would be interested to hear what you guys think as well!Maybe I should have included the current MOFI SACD & vinyl. DSD recordings have a wonderful sampling rate and are sensationally good. The individual versions will be available on September 16, 2022 with the Deluxe version available from October 7, 2022. The most notable proof of this is the CD4 quadraphonic system which relied on a 45 kHz bandwidth. It’s appalling the crap they’re releasing to kids these days… Cheap recycled vinyl, pushing the acetate to the limit or until it’ ground in some spots. SACD sure isn't growing but Analogue Productions, MFSL, Refefence Recordings and Universal/Sony out of Japan/HK continue to release new albums on SACD. . That depends on what you are looking for. SACD players have a 8 to 10 second delay as they switch layers and the mastering can be different on different layers, even on the same hybrid SACD. I think the Doug Sax mastering has a slight edge over the other two and the funny thing is. I'm hoping that everyone who has voted actually owns both, and are not just excited about the 2016. Oh yeah, Aimee Mann and Vanessa Fernandez too, that would be the newest. I am intrigued by it but don't know if it would really give me any better quality for some recordings than what I already have. Re: Super audio cd vs dvd audio. A vinyl record that is even slightly warped, or has a hole that is not perfectly centered, will have “wow”—slow variations in pitch. This setup would be more flexible and cheaper overall. Bluebook The right price. 8224 MHz. That leaves Soft Parade which also was released by Audio Fidelity. The better sounding recordings any given record company are the one's chosen for SACD release. Would someone out there who has the vinyl and has compared it to either the MFSL CD or the newer SACD please. Menu. Gooey black bag houses an extremely high quality record sleeve with postcards, posters, 320 kbps MP3 download and sturdy inner sleeve and a very nice vinyl record in a plastic sleeve. SACD. The dynamics of the attack are still there, but the leading edge lacks aggressiveness and sounds much smoother. The wait is over for the Analogue Productions SACD. #13. Vinyl can sound utterly amazing at first but eventually you will wear out a record. he worst is shelling out $25 or $30 for either and after a long search and sometimes a long wait for import or re-pressing, the thing sounds. SACD vs. For comparison of the 2022 SACD and vinyl: I have to do it again with all releases. 1:55 - Rotel RC-1570 DAC-In questo video. I will do some digging myself, so far still on the fence. The 16/44. The vinyl appears to be analogue mastered so if you value an all-analogue chain that would be an advantage. It’s appalling the crap they’re releasing to kids these days…As noted in my previous post [link], the Forum didn’t want to pay the $. An independent musician needs to make CDs Disc replication vs. Acoustic Sounds Audiophile Vinyl Records. I may have to compare the SHM-SACD or other CD versions to this SACD to see if it improves at all on those. It is probably a more accurate rendition of the master tape but with my turntable and on. SACD vs. The DVD Forum, headed by Toshiba, refused to pay patent royalties to Sony and Philips, and they launched a competing format: DVD-Audio, which couldn’t be played in a CD player. Oh and if you like SACDs, most of the masters were made on digital audio workstations that are PCM. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. Which format do you like the most, or find to be the closest to the original master tapes? Or, if you attend live concerts (or play and instrument), which format do you prefer and why? wenterprisesnw 02-04-2000 7:53pm. Alpharetta. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. tlake6659 said: ↑. The recording/tracking ability of vinyl is easily at least 50 kHz and perhaps as high as 100 kHz. culabula, May 3, 2020 #11. The real advantage of a (multichannel) SACD player is the ability to listen to the surround sound recording. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. Usually, more attention was paid to the mastering of 50s and 60s LPs and currently, SACDs. Quick links. At least they aren’t loudified. The SACD versions bring the best of the digital versions with the MOFI SACD followed by the 1999 SACD. 02. MikeT, Nov 3, 2019. • The first international release of the recording on Hybrid SACDs, allowing listeners to hear the enhanced resolution of these new transfers and playable on all CD players • The first and only complete Wagner Ring cycle available in Dolby Atmos Channel separation. Rolling Stone 500 Greatest Albums of All Time — rated 30/500! " Are You Experienced appeared in the U. By meatballz August 2, 2011 in General Hi-Fi Discussion. From the sound’s point of view, there is always a difference between SACD and the regular cd, but that left apart, usually XRCDs are sounding much better than. 45 RPM 200 Gram Clarity Vinyl. Elton John Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (D1) (2004 Rocket SACD HR B0001570-36-1) Elton John Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (D2) (2004 Rocket SACD HR B0001570-36-2) Elton John Honky Château (2004 Rocket SACD HR B0003609-36) CD, SACD vs LP, Vinyl, Album#CD #vinyl #hifiFor those of you who have not seen my complete music room and system tour and LP, CD SACD tour please click on th. Sign in with Google Even the standard redbook CD (44kHz, 16 bit resolution) has about a 26dB advantage to vinyl with respect to dynamic range, and at least a 40-50 dB advantage in stereo separation as well as unmeasurable wow and flutter. #2. Roxanne Joncas Soundstage determines the stereo image width you perceive between the speakers. Every time. I'm getting older so no longer hear above 16kHz, so that means 320 kbps mp3 is pretty much transparent to me, as well as v0 vbr mp3. So here the thing, i've listen to both Vinyl's CD's and SACD's im trying to see if there's really difference. Fred Dender and Grampire like this. The OP asked specifically if an SHM-Platinum CD sounds better than the redbook layer of a Hybrid-SACD. surround sound or multichannel sound). Please, bear in mind that I have NO original vinyls to compare to, only the early CDs of Shake It Up and Greatest Hits: 1) Shake It Up - the worse pressing from the three. Certainly better than 3 or 4 other vinyl versions I have owned over the years. I guess it shows you how much cheaper. Yesterday I received a Holiday Specials brochure from Music Direct and on the back cover is the 2LP vinyl set that Ralphie discussed in his post HERE. Music, Musicians and Bands; Activity. As a college student, he played in indie bands, created his own LPs, cassettes, and t-shirts, and sold them at shows. Both needed to be set up properly and tracked at their maximum rated vertical tracking force. I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. Vinyl can sound utterly amazing at first but eventually you will wear out a record. My buddy and I compared Tidal's "Moving Pictures" to the vinyl reissue. I no longer have the capability of playing vinyl. or Add to Wishlist. DSD is also far more accurate where it counts, in the meaty. " Arrival Date To Be Announced " for the others. " CD or SACD vs Vinyl. Miles Davis – Kind of Blue SACD – (out of print) – While this all time classic is available on all kinds of vinyl – you will have to make it your audiophile mission to find a used copy on SACD because it was released and it was good. 1. SACD vs. Quote: Originally posted by kelly jopi The largest problem I have with these subjective opinions is that rarely are both the SACD player and the turntable system of equal quality. Although this recording was digital, the Parsons 2017 remaster actually sounds more analogue than the original cd. I may have to compare the SHM-SACD or other CD versions to this SACD to see if it improves at all on those. SACD vs. The best of both worlds is vinyl ripped on a very high end rig in High res and then converted to DSD. Don't want to spend a lot of money, maybe I will not like them. The standard CD format is a 2-channel, 16-bit, 44. SACD vs. . Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. Vinyl depends on a mechanically driven system, and any such system will introduce minute changes in the speed and pitch of playback. Inner ear, May 11, 2017 #5. This is the first time the. Still waiting form "Brothers in Arms" on SACD I have also ordered the MoFi vinyl releases of: "Love Over Gold", "Dire Straits" and "Brothers in Arms" I look forward to comparing SACD vs Vinyl *reelspin* My thought process is I should buy them while they are relatively new and prices have not reached $200+ each yet. I don’t care what they claim they did to the CD. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. Myke, Dec 4, 2013. I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. KevinP, May 21, 2009 #52. These are the CDs that remastering was able to improve. I no longer have the capability of playing vinyl. Even as a purist I am very happy with the results. SACD vs. " CD or SACD vs Vinyl. " The album topped the Billboard chart for a week, and remained on the chart for 741 weeks from 1973 to 1988. There are more albums where I compared against a standard CD. SACD disc and the DSD encoding (on a SACD) are a "frozen in time" tech circa 2005. It's very difficult to set up a direct A/B comparison between SACD and CD. DeepDiscount has 1/25 as the release date. " CD or SACD vs Vinyl. " CD or SACD vs Vinyl. 1 2 Page 2 of 2 Parrot Heritage Members 6. The answer to that question is a qualified yes. . You will enjoy the contrast and comparison. swanlee, Dec 8, 2012. Which format do you like the most, or find to be the closest to the original master tapes? Or, if you attend live concerts (or play and instrument), which format do you prefer and why? wenterprisesnw 02-04-2000 7:53pm. On a CD, the separation between the left and right channels used in recording is over 90 dB. Sucks that there's no general concensus as to which CD is better, aside from the SACD. It came as a total shock to me, since I heard so many people claim that SACD is mostly an overkill for the human ear. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. SACD vs. SACD vs. . Other than that, the DSD bit stream should be exactly the same for the SACD part. CD vs. Sometimes they are available in SACD,. I've a Sony XA7ES cd player that has served me well over the years, but even it doesn't get enough play to. Head Gear. #30. You can remain judicious in selecting your choices. I do have two different versions of "Question of Balance". I played the SACD in my Sony XA5400ES SACD. SACD vs. Even if. Given the same mastering, vinyl is still better than redbook. Then I bought the new SACD version. #6. Whereas some others where I am pretty familiar with it's vinyl 'equivalent' I could tell even without direct comparison that the vinyl was better, like Kind of Blue for example. Direct Stream Digital (DSD) is a trademark used by Sony and Philips for their system for digitally encoding audio signals for the Super Audio CD (SACD). The other thing to keep in mind is that SACD is a format in its infancy. Boy, what a difference. New items New comments Author list Series Latest content Latest updates Latest reviews. 2. Virtual Systems Let the world see what you've built. I would rank each. 4 restitution, but in binaural, this version does not follow the fineness and the presence of the stereo vinyl and SACD versions. This release was originally announced in late 2019 and fans have been waiting patiently ever since. Although the MFSL version is very clear and precise, the SACD version is more expansive and full. of the Dark Side of the Moon, is NOT good sonically. Vinyl. . S. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. Just my $0. After purchasing The Cars S/T, Candy-O, and Shake It Up on MFSL vinyl, here are my thoughts. DVD-Audio vs Vinyl vs. I have the five Steve Wilson blu-ray audio 5. Plays in all CD and SACD players. Limited Edition Numbered SACD CMOB 2260 SA $29. So, Changes CD is DR 12 and Changes SACD is DR 11. Still waiting form "Brothers in Arms" on SACD I have also ordered the MoFi vinyl releases of: "Love Over Gold", "Dire Straits" and "Brothers in Arms" I look forward to comparing SACD vs Vinyl *reelspin* My thought process is I should buy them while they are relatively new and prices have not reached $200+ each yet. Like the DVD, SACD was a dual-layer format, but instead of one or two high-density layers, the SACD could have a high-density layer and a CD-compatible layer, so the. I am in the process of sending an album back because of excess snaps, clicks and pops and it is a brand new 180 gm recording. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. I grew up in the analogue days (vinyl and tape) so tape hiss is to be expected on recordings. I've not jumped on the SACD bandwagon. I don’t care what they claim they did to the CD. The following are not reviews in any way—nothing I say really matters. Slight increase in frequency range and they also have a lot more features on the Blu-ray disc that are fun to play with. Then I bought the new SACD version. Disagree. 3. In-Stock Music Orders Over $99 SHIP FREE Within The Continental U. I no longer have the capability of playing vinyl. SACD vs. As for sound I am betting you will become a believer in the merits of vinyl. I was still unconvinced. I own the SHM-CDs of all the early Steely Dan albums ( Can't Buy A Trill through Gaucho) and I'm more than pleased with the fidelity of these issues. SACD vs. Actually, probably the biggest difference that I have seen with the SACD format. 00. Get either the target Morrison Hotel CD or the Audio Fidelity. . A good vinyl record (that is scratch free, been cleaned on a vacume based record cleaner) sounds better then a CD, with again broader, deeper sound field, smoother over all audio, etc. Here are my impressions. A masterpiece SACD set. Description. I like SACD as a format, but it's kind of pointless for me when nothing I listen to is on it, and the few things that may peak my interest (i. swinger Member Thread Starter. YES Fragile also sounded quite excellent. Would someone out there who has the vinyl and has compared it to either the MFSL CD or the newer SACD please. New Jersey, USA. sacd superior to rbcd Login / RegisterAllowing for the quality of the youtube audio , that is pretty much what you would expect to hear from those 3 different masters and Its not really fair to say its a CD vs SACD vs Vinyl thing. Well, I've been thinking of getting into vinyl for a while now but still haven't done it. The internet has not only changed. Half-speed mastered at Abbey Road Studios and pressed on 180g audiophile vinyl. Bluebook The right price. The question of whether SACD sounds better is subjective and nuanced. I'm generally rather selective about my SACD purchases and only have about 25-30SACD recordings now although I plan to order a lot more as more and more reissues come out. So far my favorites from each format are as follows: SACD: Eric Clapton - Journeyman DVD-A: Fleetwood Mac - Rumors DVD (Dolby Digital/DTS): Eagles. Virtual Systems Let the world see what you've built. Please login or register an accountlogin or register an accountI purchased the Immersion box when it was released for the surround mix. Vinyl. I'm generally rather selective about my SACD purchases and only have about 25-30SACD recordings now although I plan to order a lot more as more and more reissues come out. The world's largest online retailer of high-end audio, audiophile music, and accessories. . I don't know which is more truthful. )I don't have the SACD (it's too expensive and I'm only capable of stereo). Third - Single side Japanese SACD . 98 $19. Record labels. (Not Eligible for Additional Discount) $35. . It plays PCM and may not do high res. Data read from an SHM CD is no different to the data red from an ordinary CD. Technically, it's more an aesthetic choice or trying to be louder than the other band on the street. It sounds like MoFi master their vinyl and SACD separately.